Vatican. Pope Francis explains his words about Ukraine, including Dugin’s daughter

I described the invasion of Ukraine as unacceptable aggression, disgusting, senseless, barbaric, sacrilegious – said Francis in an interview with Jesuits in Kazakhstan. La Civilta Cattolica reported that the Pope insisted that he “did not get angry when misunderstood.”

The Jesuit magazine “La Civilta Cattolica”, published in Rome, published a transcript of the conversation Pope Francis with Jesuits during a private meeting of St. Kazakhstan in mid-September.

– Since the first day of the war, I have been talking about this conflict constantly, referring to suffering Ukraine the Pope reminded him. Francis added: – I am not interested in defending the Pope, but in that the people feel treated with tenderness by you who are his brothers. The Pope does not get angry if he is misunderstood.


– When a Ukrainian Catholic bishop came to visit, I handed him a file with my statements on this subject. I described the invasion of Ukraine as unacceptable aggression, disgusting, senseless, barbaric, sacrilegious. Read my statements. The press office collects them – said Franciszek.

Pope on the death of Dugin’s daughter

He reverted to his ill-received statement about the daughter of the Kremlin ideologist Daria Dugin, whom he called “a poor girl” after she died in a car blown up in August. After these words, the Apostolic Nuncio in Ukraine was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Kiev.

The Pope explained: – After talking about Ukraine, I thought that I would say words about the suffering of two nations, Ukrainian and Russian; because people suffer during the war. As always, poor people are paying the price. And it causes hatred.

– Whoever wages a war forgets about humanity and does not look at the real life of people, but puts the interests of one side and the authorities above all else. Ordinary people in every conflict are real victims who pay for the madness of war, Francis declared.


– And then I made a reference to that girl blown up. At that moment, everything I had said up to that point was forgotten and only the reference was noticed, ‘he explained. He also added: “But I understand people’s reactions because they suffer a lot.”

The Pope also told the Jesuits about his visit to the embassy Russia at the Holy See right after the outbreak of the war: “It was an unusual gesture. The Pope does not go to the embassy, ​​but accepts ambassadors in person only when they submit their credentials and then at the end of their mission.” “I told the ambassador that I would like to speak to President Putin if he would leave me a small dialogue box,” the pope revealed.

Main photo source: MAURIZIO BRAMBATTI / PAP / EPA

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